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Avalos vs Darrel - "Is the bible a source of absolute moral rules for today?"

April 16, 2012

I have seen the opening statements of both. I almost burst out laughing at the poor poor tack taken by Darrel. Firstly, he sets out deconstructing Avalos' epistemology and morality. This is both a red herring and a shifting of the burden of proof. It matters not one jot, because that is not the focus of the debate. The debate is "Is the bible a source of absolute moral rules for today?" I can only see that Darrel should make a defensive stance. Avalos could have come out and said "I derive my morality from squeezing a lemon into my eye and chanting my name backwards four times" and it wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference.

Avalos approaches it perfectly. In Darrel's defence, the wording of the debate title is stacked totally in Avalos' favour, but if Darrel believes in absolute morality, he's a chump.

Darrel's first sentence in his rebuttal is an attack on Avalos' morality again, but I can't see this as relevant to the debate question. 

It should be


1) are the rules in the bible absolutely moral
2) are they then applicable to today

 

In other words, can morality be at all defined by context (historical or otherwise)?

All you have to do is ask, then "If slavery is absolutely bad, why did he not absolutely and outrightly ban it then, in biblical times?"

The Christian will ALWAYS claim context and being too greater shift in the moral paradigm. Oh dear, bye bye absolutes. The Christian cannot win on moral absolutes, ever. Especially using the bible.



 
 

Another reply to David B. Marshall on faith vs Reason

April 14, 2012
This is my latest reply to the debate going on here:  http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/explaining-faith-so-that-even-david.html 


Basically, so that we may be able to take this discussion further towards a much-needed conclusion, this is what I think faith is:

 

I am going to flesh out what is essentially the dictionary definition so that it is more philosophical and robust. But I am essentially not redefining it too far beyond what is accepted by the majority of the world....


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Free Will Talk to the South Hampshire Humanists

April 13, 2012
Here is the video of the talk I did on free will to the South Hampshire Humanists in January of this year. Let me know what you think. The questions got cut off at the end.


 
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Faith vs Reason

April 12, 2012
Here is a post of mine which John Loftus at Debunking Christianity posted today. It was part of a larger discussion with David Marshal, a Christian author and blogger. See what you think. 
The post is here: 
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/explaining-faith-so-that-even-david.html 
And the larger discussion here:
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/less-evidence-you-havethe-more-faith.html#disqus_thread 

David

Part of the problem is that you are extracting these...


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Carrier at Skepticon 2

April 12, 2012
This is a superb video which I have seen a few times. There is a lot of info in it, and it gathers momentum as it goes on. The case Carrier builds up for internal evidence as to the existence of Jesus, or lack thereof, is fantastic. I am not a mythicist: I am agnostic. But he does build a superb case.

 
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Being nice is genetically determined?

April 10, 2012

Born Nice? Peoples' Niceness May Reside in Their Genes, Study Finds

ScienceDaily (Apr. 10, 2012) — It turns out that the milk of human kindness is evoked by something besides mom's good example. Research by psychologists at the University at Buffalo and the University of California, Irvine, has found that at least part of the reason some people are kind and generous is that their genes nudge them toward it.


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Rick Santorum as you have never seen him before.

April 10, 2012
This is genius. Rep candidate Rick Santorum's picture made up entirely of gay porn pictures. Aah, the irony.



Rick Santorum made from gay porn 

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New essay on Paul submitted by Sarah Cook.

April 9, 2012
This is an essay submitted by Sarah Cook, an undergraduate student reading Religious and Theological Studies at Cardiff University. It is a good, concise synopsis on whether Paul defends slavery or doesn't; and whether he does so from a position of historical and cultural context or from his own understanding of the morality of slavery. 

See what you think.
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US schools. Eek!

April 7, 2012
Courtesy of richarddawkins.net:


The Lord’s Army Comes to America’s Public Schools

“Now that you know the truth, who will you share this with?” asked Ian’s fourth-grade teacher. The setting was a March 2012 meeting of the Good News Club in a Pasadena, California public elementary school. Good News Clubs are afterschool “Bible study” programs with a fundamentalist agenda that are ...


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New speaking engagement booked - a talk on free will

April 3, 2012
I am really pleased to announce that I have another speaking engagement booked in Portsmouth, to talk to the Portsmouth Skeptics in the Pub about free will.

The Skeptics in a Pub is a growing secular movement around the country, and I must say, I am really looking forward to it!

Here are the details:

"An investigation into whether we have free will or whether I was always going to write this book"

Jonathan Pearce 

When? 
Thursday, June 14 2012 at 7:30PM

Where? 


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